Kill Andrei or Stick to the Plan? Best Ocha Choice
Stick to Ocha's plan: take the ring, release the pigs and draw the window hex. Compare the Andrei outcomes and preserve Ocha's city route.
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Stick to Ocha's plan. At night, enter Andrei's upper floor from the balcony, take the ring, return to Ocha, release the pigs and draw the hex on the marked window. Killing Andrei directly gives no better confirmed reward: both routes award Broad Swing, but the direct kill skips the spell objectives and narrows Ocha's final options.
Quest and outcome spoilers
This route reveals Andrei's fate and Ocha's possible futures. Save after meeting Ocha and Nora at the Altenmarkt tavern, then keep a second slot before choosing a memento in Andrei's room.
The ring plus the window hex gives the broadest follow-up: no direct duel with Andrei, Ocha can remain with Nora, and more of her final-choice route stays available.
Start the quest and reach Andrei
Find Ocha at the tavern near Altenmarkt market, win the fistfight and speak with Nora upstairs. At night, vampire movement lets Coen enter Andrei's upper floor from the balcony.
A daytime social route also exists: question the beggars, mention selling silver and bring the required silver. The balcony is the cleaner route if you want to avoid extra errands and expense.
Choose the ring
Inside the upstairs room, inspect the ring, pendant and cleaver. Take the ring. Choosing another memento or going downstairs too soon turns the scene into a fight with Andrei.
If conversation is required on your route, the cooperative responses are the ones recognizing that his work is illegal, calling his approach smart and acknowledging that he knows how to handle it. Keep the manual save because dialogue order can vary with entry route.
| Memento | Result |
|---|---|
| Ring | Correct item; preserves the spell route |
| Pendant or cleaver | Wrong choice; leads toward a confrontation |
| Descend without the plan | Andrei fight becomes likely |
Kill Andrei or stick to the plan?
Tell Ocha to stick to the plan. Open the pig pen to pull the guard away, then draw the hex on the marked window. The spell makes Andrei kill himself without Coen dueling him directly and completes the two preparation objectives.
Killing Andrei yourself provides no confirmed gameplay advantage. It skips those objectives, makes Ocha unhappy and limits her later choices, while the quest reward remains Broad Swing on either route.
| Choice | Immediate result | Confirmed consequence |
|---|---|---|
| Stick to the plan | Release pigs and draw the window hex | Avoids the duel and preserves Ocha's broader final-choice route |
| Kill Andrei directly | Fight and skip two plan objectives | Same Broad Swing manual; fewer Ocha outcome options |
Exact ring and hex route
Use this sequence if the objective text is easy to lose between the upper room and the street. Do not descend into Andrei's shop after taking the ring; return across the balcony to Ocha first.
The pig pen is the distraction step. Once the guard moves, interact with the marked exterior window to draw the hex. Choosing the pendant or cleaver causes the spell plan to fail and leads back toward combat.
| Step | Action | Mistake to avoid |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Visit Andrei's shop at night and enter the upper floor from the balcony | Going through the guarded lower floor |
| 2 | Inspect the three mementos and take the ring | Taking the pendant or cleaver |
| 3 | Return to Ocha and choose to stick to her plan | Starting the downstairs confrontation |
| 4 | Open the pig pen to distract the guard | Approaching the window before the guard moves |
| 5 | Draw the hex on the marked outside window | Leaving before the interaction completes |
Best Ocha ending
Encourage Ocha to stay with Nora if you want the city-focused narrative in which the pair take over Andrei's operation. Choose dialogue that favors change, opportunity and the help they received from their neighbours.
Favor home and familiar life if you want Ocha to return to the Uriashi settlement. Broad Swing is awarded either way. Independent launch guides agree that Ocha's name can help with later Uriashi access, but reports about exactly where she becomes a repeatable Swordmastery teacher are not consistent enough to treat as a guaranteed route reward.
| Ocha outcome | How to steer it | Confirmed result |
|---|---|---|
| Stay with Nora in the city | Favor change and opportunity | City-focused ending after the hex route |
| Return home | Favor home and familiar life | Ocha leaves the city for the settlement |
| After Coen kills Andrei | Final choices are narrower | Broad Swing still awarded |
Rewards and evidence boundaries
The Broad Swing Swordmastery manual is awarded regardless of Ocha's final destination. That makes the ring-and-hex route the recommendation because it preserves more story options, not because it pays a larger immediate reward.
PC Gamer, Method and PowerPyx independently agree on the ring, pig-pen distraction, window hex and lack of a better reward for killing Andrei directly. Minor dialogue wording can vary with earlier choices; follow the intent of each response rather than expecting every line verbatim. Later teaching behavior remains provisional until retail-build reports fully agree.
Frequently asked questions
Which memento should you choose for Andrei?
Choose the ring. The pendant and cleaver lead toward a fight instead of preserving the hex plan.
How do you avoid fighting Andrei?
Take the ring, tell Ocha to stick to the plan, open the pig pen and draw the hex on the window.
Should you kill Andrei or stick to the plan?
Stick to the plan. Killing Andrei directly offers no better reward, skips two objectives and makes Ocha unhappy, while the hex route preserves her strongest city follow-up.
Should Ocha stay with Nora or go home?
Choose Nora for the city-focused ending or home for the Uriashi-settlement ending. Broad Swing is awarded either way; later repeatable Swordmastery teaching is not consistently documented enough to guarantee.
Do you always get the Broad Swing manual?
Yes. Launch walkthroughs report the Broad Swing Swordmastery manual regardless of Ocha's final destination.
Official sources establish releases and documented features. Independent walkthroughs corroborate routes; community posts only show reported behavior. The article above combines these sources into an original answer, table or decision route and marks uncertainty where the evidence does not agree.